Will Gold Reach A$5,000/oz? Ft. Jeremy McGovern

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Righto buddy Miners, We've got a
special guest.

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We've found someone more famous
than Ally GC, you know.

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I'm so excited.
It's funny, courtesy of Buddy.

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I don't know who's more famous
out of Paul Natali and Jeremy

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McGovern, but we've got one of
them in here today.

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But Gov Welcome to money of
mine, copper.

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Thanks for having me.
I'm I'm probably a little bit

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easier to get hold of than
Paulie these days.

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He's probably all over the world
doing whatever he's doing.

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But now thanks for having.
Me Oh no worries man.

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As I, as I said, you got like
don't feeling it's not a

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judiciary hearing or anything
like we're just nice and

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relaxed.
Not that's what.

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You won't get fined or anything.
Or they always say that before.

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So I assume the great grounded
group is bloody making the most

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out of you before you go back
for the final season for the

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Eagles next to you mate.
IA little bit obviously I got

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involved with Grounded sort of
halfway through last year on a

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mall professional level.
I guess I've known Paulie for a

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fair time and we've done a
little bit of work from over the

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years through my own personal
businesses.

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But yeah, I've laid off sort of
come on board with them to help

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him with some radium stuff.
And I think with with the AFL

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and footy and everything we do
I've always sort of bounced some

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things off poorly and how I've
integrated that into business

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and he's always been pretty keen
to hear it.

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So yeah, sort of got on board
with him and helping him out

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where I can.
Sensational Well, mate, well,

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you are like being dropped in as
a mining news expert today

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'cause we, we've got a couple of
deals to talk about.

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We've got a bit of copper gold
in the Philippines.

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JC, you're going over the We're
back.

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On Trump, back on Trump, there's
always something.

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There's something new everyday
with old Trumpy bit of gold and

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a few other bits and pieces.
So let's get.

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Let's get Gov You got any?
Do you have much of it 'cause

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you obviously can't punt on
sport in your role, but you

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probably can't punt on shares.
You got any shares?

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You got any holdings you need to
disclose?

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I've got a few that I'll play
around with, yes.

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Well, if they're not mentioned
today, usually we go out Ding,

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Ding, Ding just to not make it
look like you're pumping the

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share price up.
You should you might be safe.

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So no.
No, I had a quick look at.

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The scan through none.
Today, none today, but no, not

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none of these these shares.
I guess you guys going to be

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talking about today, but I'll
play around a.

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Little bit you just chime in
whenever.

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You're right.
It's bloody free for all.

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It's very professional
establishment, right?

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First I'll get this bloody
thing.

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Over get your iPads.
Right, another bloody what are

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we JC?
We've had a shell company

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rebirth again today.
Another 10 Ding Ding Ding for

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Blackstone for me.
Love investing in the graveyard

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that is the Philippines mining
industry.

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Love it.
They are like this.

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Have a look at this stock price.
So, yeah, the the highs, the

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peaks, the volatility that was
the nickel boom in 2022 that

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eventuated to nothing for
Blackstone.

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And now they've converted
themselves as you've seen here,

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based on right, the Rebirth is a
copper gold potential developer

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with all script merger with
merger of equals with IDM.

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So they've picked up this bloody
humdinger of a it's frigging

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huge.
So it's like a big copper pour

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for a gold project in the
Philippines. 2 1/2 KS from the,

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what is it the far SE porphyry
project, which is and that's the

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one that bloody Goldfields have
like chucked a phenomenal amount

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of money into that Goldfields
acquired 40% of it in 2012 for

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US 230 million and chucked a
shit load of drilling into it.

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They had an option to acquire
another 20% but haven't

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exercised it.
So like they've invested US 500

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million into this the one up the
road and it's sort of, you know,

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hasn't really gone anywhere,
which is very interesting.

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And so this is this one's got
like the one that Blackstone

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have picked up.
It's all it looks like it's it's

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like 9 million ounces of
contained gold, but it's

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massive.
And there it looks like they're

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going to very early days, but
there's like this high grade

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core that they could
potentially, you know, develop

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and not have to friggin go down
the whole block cave route,

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which is, you know, something
you see commonly with these huge

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friggin deposits.
So I don't know.

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Apparently Philippines is pro
mining now government change in

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2022 because it's had a bit of a
chequered history with mining in

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the Philippines.
So you've been to the

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Philippines Gulf change.
But I haven't been to the

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Philippines yet but.
This mob.

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Might have to get over there.
But you could just between

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Grounded and whatever other
freaking mining company might

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need your services just right.
If you could learn a bit about

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the Philippines, you.
Forget a free chair, free trip,

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I'll head over for sure.
I don't know why the if they've

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got that much gold, it's
probably a good time with the

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gold price tour to get that.
The unfortunate thing about 9

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million ounces is you can't get
them all out at once.

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Yeah, it'll be great.
You gotta, you gotta Chuck a bit

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of coin in the start and like,
God, if they could, if you can

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find a way to do it, they'll you
could sell that for a lot of

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bloody coins.
So yeah, it's it looks like.

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There's else is there in the
Philippines.

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It's B2 gold.
Yeah, ocean over there, but

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there's been some horror stories
in bloody Philippines I think.

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God, good old Medusa mining XX
1064.

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Don't forget bloody Red 5.
They've done their arse over

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there with the Siana Gold
Project.

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I think they only sold it sold
it for bloody US 19,000,000

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after multiple bloody halts with
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So yeah, no, she's not a not
easy gown there based on

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history.
JC Yeah, look at where's the So

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the figures are 793,000,000 ton
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gold.
So they've, they obviously put a

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chart up to support whatever
thesis they've got and you can

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see these ones for compared to
like, you know, Fila del Sol and

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everything.
The actual copper and gold grade

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together is a lot high.
It's got a lot more gold in it

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than other poofers do according
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They don't have the big outliers
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So yeah, got to be interesting.
You got to like the honest

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disclosure, which you don't see
too often following completion

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of the merger.
They will, there is a potential

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capital raising to support
transaction related costs.

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It's a given, but not many
companies actually say we are

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definitely going to capital
rise.

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So it was up a bit at the start.
So it's probably getting

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hindered by that, but and
they've actually cleaned out a

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few of the board.
So they've reduced the board

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size.
So 'cause I think a lot of the

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board previously was very nickel
focus 'cause you had Dan lower

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there from ex western areas.
Project that they were doing it.

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Yeah, so.
And obviously I don't know if

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you got the memo, but nickel
ain't in flavour at the moment,

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unfortunately.
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And so, yeah, Dan Love, Frank
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all resigning from the board.
They're bringing in one of the

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IDM directors onto the board as
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So it's going to be a three
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So we will wait and see.
There's a bit, yeah, just to you

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would think with this whole
like, you know, the, I know the

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boys are talking about Xanadu,
like a lot of these, you know,

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everyone's wanting copper,
whether the how pro attractive

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the Philippines will be.
It's going to be very

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interesting to see what happens
here.

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Very early stages.
I think the scheme is going to

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be implemented by May or so by
the time the vote needs

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shareholder approval on both
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So we'll see what bloody
happens.

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Yeah.
And I think, I mean you don't

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see many copper, gold porphyries
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So it'd be interesting to see
what they do with that in the

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Philippines.
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Well, well, you think, OK,
what's the closest thing to

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Vietnam?
It's probably the Philippines.

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So we might it's a nickel
copper, gold mineral.

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There's it's, it's a, it's a bit
different.

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It's taken a bit of a different
journey, but hey, bit of a

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another shell company rebirth.
I like it.

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Go the shells.
Go go the shells buddy.

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None of this is investment
advice either Gov Don't check

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your paycheck in anything else.
Oh So what before?

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How's how's the offseason going
mate?

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Oh, offseason's done.
Preseason's What are?

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What are it is offseason?
It is offseason for for the

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fans, I guess.
Preseason for us, mate.

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It's going good, going well.
They're not getting easier,

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that's for sure.
Perth's weather hasn't helped us

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out, I can imagine, that's for
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It's been, it's been a couple of
years I think since we've had a.

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We obviously normally get some
pretty bad heat through this

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time of the year, but it's felt
like it's been freaking five

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months of it.
Did you have to train yesterday?

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It's like 42°.
Yeah, now we we got to keep

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going.
Unfortunately, we're not part of

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the unions.
Well, you have to get water or

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anything.
Yeah, that's all.

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They look after us when we train
in that heat.

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But yeah, it's actually good,
good for training.

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Maybe why don't you just do
night shift, get the yeah, good

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morning for you sometimes
trained at night.

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Yeah, sometimes we do.
Actually we do.

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We do night training at
different stages throughout the

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year.
But no, it's actually good for

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your cardio and everything else
to to train in the heat.

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It's just, you know, you feel
like shit, I'm doing it shit.

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I.
Walked eighteen holes of golf

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yesterday in the heat.
So look, I know what you're

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going through.
Yeah, very similar.

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Very, very, very similar.
Yeah.

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So no, it's been going well.
Obviously we're a different

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group this year, very young, but
very exciting as well at the

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same time.
So everything's gone well you

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coach?
Yeah, everything's sort of new.

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So it's it's different for me,
but also very exciting as well.

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So we're mixed emotions about a
few things.

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So it's so I felt like just from
the shop floor like if I was

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going to possibly pay place a
bet on eagles to make top eight,

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would you say that is likely or
unlikely like just.

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I'd say it's not a silly bet.
But you heard it here first, JC.

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I can't hedge it against it.
Can I hedge it?

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Possibly you can't do a pair
stride with it.

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Can I do?
A pair stride on it.

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No, I don't.
Think it's silly, especially

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when you get a new coaching, new
players, young opportunities,

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anything that sort of happened
off the back of that.

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So we're very optimistic.
We're just trying to get better,

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of course.
But yeah, top, top 8 would be

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great.
If you want to back us in,

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that'd be even better.
Oh well.

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What?
What would you write better?

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Being in the top 8 or working
alongside Paul Natali, now that

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is a.
That is a hard thing to answer.

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Yeah, that's very, very hard.
I'm taking the top 8.

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Well, we're just chatting before
now.

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Here's an idea before we get
into Trump and whatever other

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mining uses around, yes, we're
talking about like I'm already

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thinking about diggers and
dealers, obviously, and you

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know, the accommodation.
Barely February day.

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Just the accommodation crisis in
Kalgoorlie to get get like get a

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place to stay if you haven't got
a mate or a person that's doing

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an Airbnb.
Is there vacant land available

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for a grounded camp to
facilitate better accommodation

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at tickets and dealers?
Temporary living quarters for

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the 6011 and beyond?
Yeah, for that, for that one

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week.
It might we can opportunity.

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We can purely for the week.
We could even get the Gov

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walking around with some bloody
limoncello and cannolis in true

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all the toilet toy and do the
whole lot.

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If anyones got a vacant piece of
land they think they might wanna

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put a grounded camp on, I'm
happy to be the first point of

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contact just so I'll get a cut
out of it once I pass it on so.

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Just so you got somewhere to
stay for diggers.

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Oh, I can't wait, but we'll get
the whole team over there.

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Get some bacon and eggs going in
the morning just to boost the

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morale.
I'll be signing the West Coast

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boys shirts.
It's my years are coming into my

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world of diggers and dealers.
Oh.

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Definitely, yeah.
I, I, I snuck up there a couple

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of years ago when I was injured
and I've heard a lot about it

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now.
There's a lot of people telling

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me about it.
And I was, it was very hard to

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believe.
And then I I got there and just

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couldn't believe it but it was
amazing yet weird but it just

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works.
That is such a good summary.

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I'll tell.
You so good.

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I'll tell you the the funniest
story how like niche mining that

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diggers and dealers is I was in
there and this these young

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fellas come up.
They're like they're like

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Maddie, can we get a selfie?
I'm like, mate, what do you want

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to find out me for?
Chris Judd is standing over

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there like an absolute AFL
legend.

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Go get a photo with him.
They're like, no, no, bloody, we

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love the potty.
And I'm like, this is fucking

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weird.
Poor old Judd, He's not even

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getting enough love over there.
I reckon he loves it now.

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He's bloody floating around.
He's he's the man of the finance

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world.
And when do you talk to him?

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You're like, holy shit, this
bloke is all over it.

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He's a genius.
No sweet shot.

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Yeah, it's crazy.
Crazy how I'm I'm not surprised

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he's just that that way
inclined, but I'm yeah, speaking

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to him.
I'm I've said a few times, mate,

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you Speaking of riddles right
now?

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You make sense.
It sounds like you you know it.

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I've got no idea what you're
talking about.

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But now he's very switched on.
Guy very well connected.

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Was he, is it the I guess the
same things that made him a good

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footy player, a good finance,
personally, just all in

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addictive on this.
I'm learning this now.

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I don't know.
I'm on that level of the footy

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level.
I was, I was a bit after him,

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but for more reports, Yeah,
yeah, very much.

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And I think, I think he really
enjoys it.

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He loves it.
And I think that's the number

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one thing.
If you really enjoy or love

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something, you're going to
you're going to sink your teeth

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into it, aren't you?
So.

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And I think he's very people
money too.

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Well, it's disclosed like he's
things go up.

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He's not scamming.
Yeah.

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Yeah, no, he does does really,
really well Judy and he's still

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it's good to see him still
coming over WI and he comes over

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here a fair bit.
So it's it's good to see that he

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still has an interest back over
here, even though he he left us

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and dogged us a few years ago.
I.

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Love it actually, what is we
were talking about this before,

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like what do you reckon some
some good lessons that you

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learnt or you're learning in in
footy that you reckon would be

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very applicable to some mining
companies?

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Yeah, I think the thing for me
is I've realised obviously I've

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I've obviously been involved
with Grounded now for a little

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bit and some own personal
business stuff is the people

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management culture, leadership,
feedback.

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Everyone does that throughout
business and everyone's trying

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to create a good culture and
where everyone wants to come

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into work, have a common goal.
Our common goal is as

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footballers obviously is to win
and win flags for businesses.

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The common goal is to other
produce a product or sell a

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product or whatever, whatever it
might be.

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But everyone has to have a
common goal to achieve that.

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So we sort of live it every
single day we in our space, we

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give and take feedback every
second we walk in there.

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You know, you sort of, you're
not getting criticised, but the

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odds are on you and you're
saying what you do and how you

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behave and how you speak to
people and how you give

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feedback.
And then I've found over my

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journey so far is the change in
generations.

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When I first got in it was can I
swear.

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If you're trying to come to the
right place, mate, yeah, it was.

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It was fitting the fuck off.
That was the mentality.

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You do this or you're not going
to that's.

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What my fault stands for Yeah,
yeah.

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So, and then obviously as a
generational change has come,

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it's, it's definitely not that
now it's a bit more nurturing,

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finding different ways to deal
with that.

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And I've sort of had the same
experience through business and

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how to nurture the new
generation coming through and

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how to get through to the new
generation without telling them

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that they're shoot at their job
and they need to be better is

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what what it used to be.
I.

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Think it's pretty like in mining
services providers, Like it's

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pretty similar to a game of
footy regularly, isn't it?

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Like if you're tendering for a
contract, you either win it or

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you lose it.
And like, yeah, take that same

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mentality on the field to like,
if we don't win this, we're not

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making money.
Yeah, of course, which is what

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footy used to be when they'll
get match payments.

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It's a bit different now.
Like, yeah, they talk about the

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old, you know, the league back
in the day where they're getting

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like, you know, 1000 bucks a win
and 200 for a loss.

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It's like there was a tangible
difference between winning and

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losing.
In sensors, yeah, we're still

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in, yeah.
And that's the thing, you,

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you're trying to align everyone.
Everyone's got different

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backgrounds, different opinions,
different views.

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It's very much the same at a
footy club, different ages,

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different everything.
And you're trying to align

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everyone when we play mainly and
training for the same common

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goal of winning.
It's very much same within

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business.
You're trying to get everyone

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aligned, working together,
making sure everyone's

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comfortable, happy to come in.
So then you can get productivity

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and get productivity.
Hopefully you can start winning

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some jobs, delivering some jobs
and delivering a good service.

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And then you start building your
reputation, you culture, your

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brand, which then puts you in
good stead.

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It's very, very similar in in
AFL.

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So I've sort of been doing
working with ground on a bit of

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that sort of stuff and a few
other different businesses here

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and there and yeah, it's great.
That actually coincides really,

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really well on it.
Footy just wasn't footy game.

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The game of football wasn't just
a complete waste because when

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that's done, you're done, if
that makes sense.

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I can't just keep playing footy
for money until I'm 100.

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I'm glad that we've actually
learning things outside of

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football that we, I think most
players don't completely

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understand yet, not until they
finish.

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You could be the saviour for
diggers and dealers building

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camps like you think of, like
your you know, your life in

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footies could mean one thing,
but post footy you could

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transform the mining industry.
Yeah, who knows after this

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conversation we've had today.
Who knows?

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Yeah, that'll be that'll be
great.

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But.
Well, if any of you like, we've

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actually got another partner
I've got to yarn about today.

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So if any of your other footy
teammates might be looking for a

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similar role, I reckon I've got
another mob because I don't want

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to, you know, you cheating on
Grounded with Quattro project

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engineering how?
Do you sponsor?

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So I'll give you a bit of
context Govern you might be able

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to see what which player could
fit the fit the mould for this.

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So but there I don't know if
you've been underground much,

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but like so I'll attach Quattro
to the products they've

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invented.
They're part of the burn cart

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group, but they're like the fan
hanging systems to take people

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away.
They invented that the bloody

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the pace diversion valves
underground.

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They've invented that the flash
new bloody IT baskets that

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conformed all the AWP standards,
the M AWP.

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They've invented that like
design construct.

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They're the pretty much it's
just a an underground can do

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joint for fabrication and
engineering work.

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Gov Which West Coast player
would the Gov equivalent we

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could flick over the quadrant
I'm.

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Just trying to think who's got
the best head to be underground.

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Oh my, there's, I think all of
them, like really a lot of them.

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It's just ingrained, you know,
this is the way that a lot of

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them operate, especially not
just players, coaches as well.

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Anyone from a farming
background?

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Cause like you know the
engineering, construction and

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underground's a bit of a farm.
Any of the boys from a farming

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background.
Yeah, there's Jamie Cripps.

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He's, he's got a little bit of a
farming background.

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He's doing some work with
nutrient at the moment.

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Liam Duggan, obviously he's our
captain at the moment.

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He's he'd be great.
But like I said, most, most of

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the boys, there's a lot, a lot
of coaches as well.

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Simo's, Simo's just out of a,
out of a gig.

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So he'd be processed to to wrap
Simo.

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Up.
It feels like there's nothing I

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can't do today.
Imagine if I imagine if I line

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Simo up with Quattro, is that
you like just the business

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development head of Quattro,
this could be done.

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Yeah, I think it's great.
It's, it's great for businesses

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and sports people because I
think it just aligns really,

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really well.
As much as we're taking the piss

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out of the video, I honestly
think, I hope, hopefully

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somebody can come of it because
I, I, it just aligns really,

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really well.
And Simo's managed heap

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supplies.
Executive CEO's, he's managed a

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lot and it's, it's, it's, yeah,
it's, it's a lot of lot of work

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and he's put a lot of time into
it so.

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Right, See mate, give me a ring,
give me a ring.

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I could line you up with Jeremy
Palmer and the Quattro team.

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Mate.
Quattro are looking for people,

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anyone with that sort of
attitude that just wants to work

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in a no dickhead environment,
but yet they can just turn you

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into an engineering legend at
Quattro.

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So go to the careers page at
Quattro Simao if you're

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listening, Korea's a caught,
right?

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Go Chuck your CV in mate, and we
might even you could be the face

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of the joint.
This is this.

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Is what a?
What a world we live in See how

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good is Perth So so let's go
across the ditch to the to the

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northern hemisphere North
America.

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What is happening with the the
there was Trump has done a lot

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in the last few days.
I saw, saw one tweet where he

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said there's been $100 billion
lost to the Ukraine in the Biden

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government.
So he said.

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Because we can't find that
effectively, all the rare earths

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you produce are ours now.
Oh.

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It's just like every half an
hour there's just like

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something, something.
It wasn't.

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He was the other one saying
Gaza's gonna be, it's gonna turn

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Gaza into a holiday destiny.
The era of the the Middle East.

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Or something.
I'm like this God, God, talk

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about embracing Twitter.
But.

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Just a little.
Bit Do you follow the real

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Donald Trump on Twitter?
Gov?

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Yeah, I do.
I don't have Twitter.

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I'll follow him on Instagram
but.

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It's tough to keep up with, I
can tell you that.

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Especially now I know he's he's
got the keys to the car, he's

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driving it.
That's.

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Normally and they, you know, get
to those roles of

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responsibility, they sort of
taper that back.

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But he's just amped it up, if
anything.

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So I don't, I don't think that
there's any appears to be pretty

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LAX social media policies within
the American government in the

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White House.
He does.

450
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,160
He does really well to Trump.
He might be OK here.

451
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:56,760
And then two days later you're
going, Oh, no.

452
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,240
No.
What's what's going on, Trump?

453
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,160
You look like you're on the
right path there for a little

454
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,760
bit, doing some great things.
And then he shoots from the

455
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,200
hippie bit.
But ah, well, that's that's

456
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,040
Trumpy.
Right, Jay.

457
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,360
So give us a a macro political
economic update mate.

458
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,040
No, I've been taking over from
Macromedi today.

459
00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,720
I don't mate, I've I've handed
the.

460
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,760
I've handed the reins over.
I'm like, Simo's going to be at

461
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,440
Quattro, just here to develop
people.

462
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,520
So, oh, there's a couple of
updates the last last few days.

463
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,880
So China responded to the, the
US tariffs with some, some of

464
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,000
their own and some some K
mineral export bands.

465
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,480
So the other day, oh, this is an
article from AFR sort of talking

466
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,080
about the news, 15% tariffs on
US coal and LNG and 10% on crude

467
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:49,440
oil, agriculture, machinery and
some vehicles as well.

468
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,600
It won't take effect till the
10th of Feb, which is which is

469
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,400
next week.
I think it might actually affect

470
00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:01,160
the companies that you got Gov
because I think cat do they

471
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,080
fabricate anything over in
China?

472
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,000
I think I remember watching
CNBC, they had the cat share

473
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,880
price up.
So I'm like on the screen.

474
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,760
So I'm like, it must be affected
by the China, yeah, because it's

475
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,560
all, it doesn't matter where
they're headquartered if they're

476
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,080
building it over there.
Yeah, it's.

477
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,120
Kind of the thing.
And then they also China also

478
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:25,280
expanded sort of some key
mineral export controls on on a

479
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,760
few different commodities
including tungsten, tellurium,

480
00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,320
bismuth, Molly, denim and
Indian, which I've only heard of

481
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,200
tungsten before.
I'm not sure what the others

482
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,680
but.
Molybdenum.

483
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,680
Is that molybdenum or different
one to lure him?

484
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,360
That's an interesting.
Yeah.

485
00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:47,560
So it's not an outright ban.
It's more so restrictions and,

486
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080
you know, there's an export
licenses you have to get and,

487
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,040
you know, things like that as a,
a screen grab from the the

488
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,920
Reuters article that was talking
about it the other day.

489
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,640
So these Chinese countermeasures
are much more limited in scope

490
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,240
compared to what sort of Trump
initially fought out with, which

491
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,520
was, you know, basically a 10%
levy on all Chinese goods

492
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,960
heading to the US.
And there's sort of mixed

493
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,720
reports of whether there's a
call between the two leaders

494
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,440
that scheduled for later this
week or it's trying to get

495
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,600
scheduled.
So I, I wonder whether anything

496
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,600
might actually come out of it,
kind of like the, the Mexico and

497
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,240
the Canada discussions.
Once the sort of leaders discuss

498
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,560
things, it's like, OK, no, we'll
pause it for 30 days and, you

499
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,000
know, see how we go.
Da, da, da, so.

500
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,480
Can you imagine Big Alba, our
Prime Minister, flexing his

501
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,440
muscles against Trump?
Do you reckon he'd have the

502
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,400
minerals for it?
Probably not.

503
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,000
And it's just a shame that they
use the tariffs because

504
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,200
obviously you throw a tariff and
that affects a lot of businesses

505
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,960
obviously all over the world.
And I just float with I'm just

506
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,400
going to throw 1 on now
overnight.

507
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:55,080
It's just, it's poor game.
I reckon you've got to, it's

508
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,200
just your flexing in that
aspect.

509
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,920
It just it hurts so many
industries.

510
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200
But if the US and China are
going to go at it with all this

511
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,000
mineral tariffs, it might
actually open up be more

512
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,440
opportunity for Australia over
here to try to do a deal with

513
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,440
China direct.
Yeah, well, but there because

514
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,160
he's talking about chucking it
on the Europe as well, but I

515
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,920
wonder what he thinks about us
like if we're we're.

516
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,160
Just going to do what we can
we're.

517
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Just happy.
Don't.

518
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,520
Just don't.
Yeah.

519
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,920
Just leave us alone.
I hope he doesn't see us.

520
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,000
Daddy, whose side are you on?
Whose side you want me to?

521
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,360
Be on.
It's like it looks like he

522
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:30,320
doesn't want a size like where
where it's just going to USA and

523
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,600
then everyone can conform around
them.

524
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,800
Who knows, maybe doesn't look
like he's a man that wants any

525
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,480
allies.
No, but he's like he looks half

526
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,600
dead when he's bloody.
It must be to be an American

527
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,400
president these days.
You've got to be nearly ready to

528
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,080
die because like he looks so old
and like and funny because

529
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,360
wasn't Biden and Trump are all
older than Bill Clinton.

530
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,960
I really.
Yeah, yeah, it's a big.

531
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,440
Guy well, Trump's on a bit
better than Biden, but.

532
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,960
Yeah, that's that's.
Give him, give him time.

533
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,800
And then the other interesting
thing sort of as it relates to

534
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,440
resources is they, there was a,
a Bloomberg article out saying

535
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,920
that Trump is mulling cancelling
loans from $400 billion

536
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,400
greenback.
So they're apparently they're

537
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240
sort of looking into legal
options to cancel loans that

538
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,480
have already been issued under
this program to sort of finance

539
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,920
clean energy tech.
But it remains to be seen,

540
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,560
obviously, if it is legally
viable.

541
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:29,720
No decisions have been made, but
the DOA is saying that whole

542
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,760
loan program is sort of being
considered as part of a an

543
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,920
agency wide review to ensure all
activities are consistent with

544
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,160
President Trump's executive
orders and priorities.

545
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,240
And, you know, as far as what
sort of energy tech that could

546
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720
get directed to, you know, would
pretty well known he's he's fan

547
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,680
of nuclear power, LNG and all
that.

548
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,640
You know some of the loans for
example that have already been

549
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,640
finalize at this stage is 15
billion to PG&E Corp.

550
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,400
That 15 billion sounds small
when you look at all these

551
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000
American numbers just.
That 9.2 billion to Ford, 1

552
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,000
billion to Nevada lithium ion
that's been developed by INEA,

553
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,760
which I think we talked about a
little while ago, and even

554
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,880
almost half a billion to Elon's
Tesla to get Model S into

555
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:22,200
production.
So yeah, I'm not sure how it'd

556
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,840
be pretty hard to cancel
something that's already been

557
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,760
issued.
But if you were sort of in that

558
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:31,120
negotiation phase or in the
wings phase and then this sort

559
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:34,320
of comes out, I mean, you'd get
pretty nervous.

560
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,800
Wrong.
It's just madness.

561
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,440
You know who What's not nervous
at the minute is the gold price.

562
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,360
That is not nervous at all or.
Just wait for Trumpet to bring

563
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,920
something in to to kill that as
well.

564
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,120
No, no.
Leave the gold price alone.

565
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Leave that there, jumpy.
But it's dangerous ties with the

566
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080
gold.
It's that you would have

567
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,720
remembered the lithium mania
sort of a couple of years ago.

568
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,920
You get in that phase and
everyone starts tipping, coining

569
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,360
where you think, oh, this is
impossible to go down.

570
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,720
We're in that at the moment.
Yeah, Gold's obviously a lot

571
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,240
bigger market and being around a
lot longer than lithium.

572
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,800
But like you see, I just got but
doesn't appear to be doing that

573
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,480
at the moment.
No, and I mean like, I think

574
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,240
every day you read an article,
gold has hit a new record again

575
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,160
overnight and it's just been
repeated basically.

576
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,200
Well, it's.
It's just gotta, once it's out

577
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,240
of record, it's just gotta go up
and it's gotta be a new record.

578
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,560
Yeah, but it just keeps going.
You got any records Gov with the

579
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,880
club or bloody AFL?
No, no, no, no.

580
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,960
No, no, no #1 no, my records.
It's not a proud one about of

581
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,120
top three highest skin folds
ever at the free time, which I I

582
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,400
laugh about now, but it's
extremely embarrassing.

583
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,400
So, right.
But Tom Brady, they reckon out

584
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720
of the fitness test and stuff
they put him through at

585
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,440
quarterbacks, he was last.
He was always last.

586
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,200
So you're pretty much parallel.
You're the AFL equivalent of Tom

587
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:03,200
Brady, Yeah.
Very similar, obviously, but no,

588
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,320
yeah.
But me and Tom, we're we're

589
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320
obviously professional at our
sport, not athletes.

590
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Professional at our Yeah.
There's not, not athletically.

591
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,920
Is there is there anything that
bucket list items in footy that

592
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280
you like?
You think fuck all bloody I'm at

593
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280
the end of my career now I wish
I did that.

594
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,600
Or have you?
Have you ticked most boxes you

595
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
think?
I'll win the premierships,

596
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,560
probably the number one for
sure, which I'm fortunate enough

597
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,920
to get.
Have one of those.

598
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Other than now I've kicked one
off the siren.

599
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,040
No, no, I don't think so, no.
I'll win a Brownlow or something

600
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,320
probably.
Maybe, but good luck winning

601
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360
that.
Yeah, from the background.

602
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,560
That's hard work.
That'll be another record.

603
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,800
Aldous Brownlow.
Winner.

604
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,560
I don't know if that's a bucket
list thing, but it would be nice

605
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920
to I guess.
Have one?

606
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,600
Did you ever get close?
Were you ever up in the loader

607
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:00,480
board?
Never.

608
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,360
Midfielders.
Yeah, I don't think, Oh yeah,

609
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,600
the backs, unfortunately.
Has the back ever won it?

610
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,240
Oh, a fair while ago, I think.
A long, long time ago when they

611
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960
were valued, no.
No.

612
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Hey, but Gov tell you what, What
don't you say hey, take me away

613
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,720
and see what happens?
No, it's a, it's a fair, fair

614
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,360
award for the midfielders.
But yeah, there's no point in

615
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,360
inviting backman or forwards to
the Brownlow Knight.

616
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,400
Just involved all the
midfielders.

617
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240
So we got to say in your last
year we're going to see a lot of

618
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,000
bloody solo runs trying to just
kick goals.

619
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,640
You're like bucket.
I'll just suppose I'll kick a

620
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,720
few before I finish.
Up.

621
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Yeah, exactly.
My I'm going to cost the team

622
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,120
thirty goals a game, but as long
as I get one.

623
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,360
And that's all you'll be
remembered for.

624
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,680
You remembered for your last
year?

625
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,960
Yeah, exactly right, Jay.
So any other bloody deals we can

626
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,640
go through today?
So and just a quick one I was

627
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,520
just having a look at how the
the Aussie gold equities have

628
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,600
been performing sort of off the
back of you know, gold price the

629
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,800
last month.
So whipped up a quick chart,

630
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,800
just saw the Aussie gold
producers producing above

631
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,160
100,000 oz and it.
Looks like a heart rate monitor,

632
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,120
doesn't it?
Yeah.

633
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,560
And I mean, this is just over
the last month.

634
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,400
Some of these guys, most of them
sort of averaging, you know,

635
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,200
20-30 and even you got catalysts
in the 40 percents just in the

636
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,880
last month, the only one.
So they've all outperformed the

637
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,000
gold price.
The only one that hasn't

638
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,640
outperformed the gold price is
West Gold, which obviously had

639
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,440
that got its provision the other
day, which which knocked it off

640
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,400
a fair bit.
But even that's recovered a

641
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,000
little bit since then.
I mean, last year kind of felt

642
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,520
like the gold price was rising,
you know, some boats maybe in a

643
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,000
few, mostly in the producer
space, maybe a little bit in the

644
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,240
developers.
But now it very much feels like

645
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,720
it's started to lift all of
these boats even down that kind

646
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,160
of development curve.
But I wonder whether we're we're

647
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,880
approaching gold 5000 Aussie.
I just everyday you think I

648
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,680
surely won't go anymore and it
just it just sort of does but.

649
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Yes, but do they have for
investing Gov Like do they, you

650
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,120
know, do the clubs like have
give like investment education

651
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,000
like when you blokes are getting
played?

652
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,240
I got because if I was early 20s
getting paid 1,000,000 bucks,

653
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
I'd be like, hi, how much fun
can I have?

654
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,480
Don't worry, I'll sort that shit
out after 30.

655
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,640
But do they, do they give much
like the, you know, investing in

656
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,800
life after footy for, you know,
the people that might be a bit

657
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,240
less inclined to be a bit more
behaved like you are?

658
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,360
Oh no, not really.
The the clubs do obviously try

659
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,520
and help with stuff outside of
footy.

660
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Managers do with the AFLPA as
well, which are there to to help

661
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,040
with those sort of things.
But now it's pretty much up to

662
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,280
the individual, to everyone's
got a job.

663
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280
Risk.
Profile I'd imagine.

664
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,920
I'll come in and give some
seminars.

665
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,040
You're going to have to.
Jump it up with.

666
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,760
Them just Chuck it into this
stock, boys, it's going up.

667
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,240
Yeah, now the boys, everyone
sort of plays around a little

668
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,080
bit and we all hear whispers and
things and everyone put some

669
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,520
money in and loses it most of
the time.

670
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,360
But yeah, most individuals have
their own sort of individual

671
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,840
plans.
Some are real tight asses and

672
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,520
others have really high risk.
And but yeah, it's up to each

673
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,720
individual and many of their
management group and how they

674
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,360
deal with it, I guess.
But I'd highly recommend getting

675
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,640
involved.
There's some the best thing

676
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480
about Perth as well, there's no
poker machines in the pubs, so I

677
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,680
think a lot of the Sydney
footballers lose half their wage

678
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160
in them frigging things.
So yeah, it's just like Perth,

679
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,560
the land of opportunity, safe
haven.

680
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,960
I.
Think Perth is the is gold safe

681
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,680
haven?
Everyone get on gold, just watch

682
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,800
it for.
Oh, right, JC Africa, another

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00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:49,800
African golden.
Yeah.

684
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,640
Just the last one for today I
thought looked interesting.

685
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,720
So another sort of, you know, on
a much smaller scale a, a

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00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
strategic investment in African
gold explorer.

687
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,960
But I found it interesting
because it had a, a couple of

688
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,880
common threads to the predictive
story, which we, we touched on

689
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,040
earlier this week with decision
and you know, London investing

690
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,199
in that.
So the company's Apollo

691
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:16,199
Minerals, it's, it's a
14,000,000 market cap bit of a

692
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:16,679
minnow.
Oh, right.

693
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,199
Main focus is this Solani gold
project in Gabon.

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00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,639
So common thread number one is
Paul Roberts who's a net on the

695
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:29,040
board is the the founder and ex
MD of Predictive.

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00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:35,199
And so today's news where Apollo
that they raised $2,000,000 from

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00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,080
their sort of previously
announced shortfall offer which

698
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,880
was cornerstone by strategic
investment of just under one and

699
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,120
a half million bucks from
Capital DI and their supporters.

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00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,840
And so Capital DI have been
doing the drilling at Solani.

701
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040
So the second common thread is
Capital.

702
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,199
DI was one of the shareholders
who sold their stake, predictive

703
00:34:56,199 --> 00:35:01,480
stake.
To oh, this is like bloody FBI

704
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,520
sort of stuff.
I'm surprised we haven't seen

705
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,120
the fact.
And considering that Paul Natali

706
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640
is in Africa at the moment, I'm
surprised we haven't seen

707
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,960
something come up like strategic
investment from the grounded

708
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,480
group because Paul got shit
faced and agreed to something

709
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,120
while he was on the while he was
on the red wine.

710
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,040
But he's.
Not back yet.

711
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,280
It's.
Still.

712
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,960
Still could happen.
Huge.

713
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:27,720
Chair but yeah, no, they're
they're a major shareholder of a

714
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:32,600
few other African gold explorers
capital Dr. so there's where

715
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,520
gold oh that Coco said gold
project in Namibia Azara

716
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,400
Minerals the cater gold project
in Guinea.

717
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,200
But yeah, it's nice to get like
between you know this is

718
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,840
obviously on a smaller scale,
but even the the news from early

719
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,080
this week it's nice to get some
excitement and and positivity

720
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,960
back in African gold in in light
of recent events.

721
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
But are you transferring?
Yourself from the Murchison gold

722
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200
to African gold now JC Oh I
think.

723
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,720
It's trendy.
You got to it's trendy.

724
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,400
I think it's worth a look.
At right, but just yeah, this

725
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,800
could be your new like every
Twitter post is related to also

726
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,080
for content.
Ali's got like because she had

727
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,600
all these Ding Ding Dings for
all the shares she hold and

728
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,920
there was so many gold stocks
she held that become on Twitter

729
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
and everything was just related
to the Ali GC ETF and should be

730
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,520
coming from a life of not much
social media at work to now

731
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,480
being this famous gold
stockholder.

732
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:36,360
Just really overestimating my
positions like 10 times but all

733
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,600
the humble young investors.
Gold companies just going to be

734
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,040
shooting through the roof now.
It is just what is my life?

735
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:45,320
But anyway, oh.
Love it.

736
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,880
Well, God mate, thanks Ike for
that.

737
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,520
No worries.
Thanks for.

738
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Having me, as I told you 0 plan
just works.

739
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,600
Sometimes it does.
And mate, thanks for popping in

740
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,880
and we'll yeah, can't can't get
more anymore.

741
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,400
We do we even need to mention
grounded at the end.

742
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Jeez, they've been given some
love.

743
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,880
Every sponsor will be like oh,
can we come on?

744
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,160
I'm like mate, you bring a
bloody footy star with them.

745
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,240
Yep, you can come on once.
We get Simo.

746
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,200
You'll be right.
You can come on for Quattro.

747
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,720
Quattro, sorry.
Thanks to bloody ground and

748
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,480
Quattro, as you said, our other
partners would like to bloody

749
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,840
thank as always.
That's how we get the coin Gov.

750
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
That's like that's what keeps
the lights on for us.

751
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,120
So we've got to give them the
love accordingly.

752
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,040
The Sandbrook ground sport
division.

753
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,400
You'll see all these guys are
diggers once you build the camp

754
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,200
out.
Yeah, sure.

755
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,800
It's K Drill, Salt Bush
contracting, Swig, Cross,

756
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,360
Boundary Energy and don't forget
to buy the bloody underground

757
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,600
operators tickets through US.
100 bucks off in Adelaide.

758
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,680
We should go to that.
Plenty of bloody camp

759
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,160
opportunities.
We've got some grounded in the

760
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,840
crowd.
We've got a grounded crowd,

761
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:51,240
right?
I heard her money.

762
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,160
More Cheers.
Gov.

763
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,840
Thanks guys.
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00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,600
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00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,240
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766
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,280
or needs of any particular
person.

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00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Before making any investment
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768
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,680
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769
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,360
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